S3E17
· Stirred

Fitzwallace Frenzy: Hoynes Independent Threat Fractures Staff

In the Roosevelt Room, staff dissect General Fitzwallace's viability as Hoynes's VP replacement, touting his Vietnam heroism and potential to surge black turnout in the South, realigning the map. Optimism sours as Toby questions his party loyalty, sparking CJ's grim warning of a two-man race assumption. Toby escalates by invoking Hoynes running independently, fueled by humiliation, threatening a three-way split that dooms them all despite Josh's historical dismissals. The debate circles back to Fitzwallace's uncertain affiliation, exposing strategic fractures and raw electoral terror in a chaotic turning point of their disloyalty gambit.

Plot Beats

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The team discusses Fitzwallace's political reliability and regional appeal post-dumping Hoynes, strategizing the potential electoral realignment.

exploration to apprehension ['Roosevelt Room']

C.J. and Toby escalate concerns about Hoynes retaliating as an Independent, fracturing their base and creating a three-way race.

confidence to uncertainty ['Roosevelt Room']

Josh dismisses the threat of Hoynes going rogue, invoking historical precedent (Aaron Burr), but Toby counters with the humiliation they're inflicting.

defiance to confrontation ['Roosevelt Room']

The meeting circles back to its chaotic start with Josh's exasperated admission they still don't know Fitzwallace's party affiliation.

frustration to resignation ['Roosevelt Room']

Who Was There

Characters present in this moment

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Josh Lyman
primary

Frustrated optimism curdling into exasperation at mounting pessimism

Josh leads the meeting with fervent pitches for Fitzwallace's game-changing appeal, dismisses Hoynes' independent bid as absurd by invoking Aaron Burr, pushes back against doomsayers while acknowledging the strategic void left by the debate.

Goals in this moment
  • Secure consensus on Fitzwallace as viable VP replacement
  • Discredit Hoynes independent run to maintain two-man race focus
Active beliefs
  • Fitzwallace's heroism trumps party affiliation in crisis
  • Hoynes lacks the recklessness for a self-destructive independent campaign
Character traits
frenetic dismissive pragmatic leadership-driven
Follow Josh Lyman's journey

N/A (discussed humiliation fueling rage)

Hoynes invoked as humiliated wildcard, his corporate ties, conservative Democrat base, and populist independents poised for 15-20% independent run, turning two-man race into three-way electoral hellscape.

Goals in this moment
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Active beliefs
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Character traits
pragmatic vindictive politically potent
Follow John Hoynes's journey
C.J. Cregg
primary

grim

Warning against assuming a two-man race, highlighting dangers of Hoynes' base creating a three-way split, shrugging at Josh's Burr reference, and noting it's Josh's meeting.

Goals in this moment
  • Caution the group on electoral risks of a three-way race with Hoynes
Character traits
resilient strategic poised terse dutiful
Follow C.J. Cregg's journey

Grim concern laced with sardonic inevitability

Toby pierces the hype by questioning Fitzwallace's Democratic ties, escalates with stark prediction of Hoynes' independent revenge fueled by humiliation, quantifying the electoral doom at 15-20% start.

Goals in this moment
  • Expose risks in Fitzwallace's unproven loyalty
  • Force realism by highlighting Hoynes' viable third-party threat
Active beliefs
  • Party affiliation gaps doom opportunistic VP picks
  • Public humiliation guarantees Hoynes' vengeful defection
Character traits
cynical incisive pessimistic strategically ruthless
Follow Toby Ziegler's journey

N/A (discussed absence)

Fitzwallace looms as spectral centerpiece via his folder's photo and bio, dissected for Vietnam decorations, hawk credentials, and Northeast/Southern appeal, but loyalty doubts undermine his viability.

Goals in this moment
  • N/A
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Active beliefs
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Character traits
heroic enigmatic politically ambiguous
Follow Fitzwallace's journey
Supporting 2

optimistic

Highlighting potential astronomical black turnout in Georgia, North Carolina, and Louisiana under Fitzwallace.

Goals in this moment
  • Support Fitzwallace to put southern states on the table electorally
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Leo McGarry
secondary

optimistic

Praising Fitzwallace's Vietnam decorations and defense hawk status, noting no Republican criticism, and defending the plausibility of Hoynes running independently.

Goals in this moment
  • Promote Fitzwallace's viability as VP replacement to realign southern states
Character traits
stoic assertive resolute loyal compassionate
Follow Leo McGarry's journey

Objects Involved

Significant items in this scene

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Fitzwallace's Folder

Scene opens with tight shot on Fitzwallace's Folder splayed open on the table, his photo and Vietnam/political data anchoring the debate as staff touts heroism and turnout surges while probing loyalty gaps, serving as narrative catalyst fueling optimism-to-doom pivot.

Before: Closed or off-screen prior to pull-back reveal
After: Open and central on Roosevelt Room table, actively …
Before: Closed or off-screen prior to pull-back reveal
After: Open and central on Roosevelt Room table, actively consulted

Location Details

Places and their significance in this event

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Roosevelt Room (Mural Room — West Wing meeting room)

Roosevelt Room hosts high-stakes midnight strategy huddle where staff circles the table dissecting VP calculus, folder at center; late-night isolation amplifies raw panic as electoral maps fracture under Hoynes threat, embodying White House power's precarious knife-edge.

Atmosphere Tense, claustrophobic late-night frenzy laced with mounting dread
Function Secure war room for VP replacement brainstorming
Symbolism Iconic site of Democratic realignments now haunted by betrayal specters
Access Restricted to senior staff core
Polished table strewn with folders and maps Dim night lighting heightening shadows and intensity

Organizations Involved

Institutional presence and influence

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Conservative Democrats

Conservative Democrats flagged as Hoynes' bedrock base rallying to his independent humiliation-fueled run, per C.J. and Toby, priming Southern surges that doom Bartlet in three-way split, weaponizing factional resentment.

Representation Invoked as potent voter bloc in threat scenario
Power Dynamics Empowered as defectors tilting electoral balance against incumbents
Impact Threatens party fracture, amplifying third-party viability
Internal Dynamics Resentment brews over VP ouster
Back humiliated leader's revenge campaign Punish party disloyalty via base mobilization Voter turnout in key Southern states Ideological pressure on national ticket
Populist Independents

Populist Independents cited alongside conservative Democrats as Hoynes' independent army, starting at 15-20% and making every state competitive, per Toby's math; their defection evokes three-way apocalypse, shattering staff illusions.

Representation Referenced as core support in doomsday projection
Power Dynamics Wildcard force fragmenting major-party monopolies
Impact Catalyzes multi-candidate chaos, upending two-party norms
Internal Dynamics Loyalty to charismatic defector over party machinery
Champion outsider revolt against establishment betrayal Exploit VP snub for populist surge Baseline polling strength in fragmented electorate Alliance with corporate and conservative resources
Democratic Party

Democratic Party affiliation becomes flashpoint as Toby demands proof of Fitzwallace's loyalty, contrasting Josh's assumption he'd join now; specter of defection fractures unity amid VP scramble, underscoring ideological purity vs. pragmatic desperation.

Representation Via staff debate on potential affiliate's alignment
Power Dynamics Challenged by internal loyalty probes and external Hoynes pull
Impact Exposes vulnerability to independent defections eroding base cohesion
Internal Dynamics Tug-of-war between purists and electoral realists
Vet VP pick for ironclad party fealty Preserve two-man race dominance against fractures Electoral math and turnout projections Historical precedent in candidate vetting

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Key Dialogue

"TOBY: "Does anyone even know if he's a Democrat?""
"TOBY: "John Hoynes.""
"TOBY: "Some future he'll have after we publicly humiliate him by kicking him off the ticket.""