Fabula
S3E17 · Stirred
S3E17
· Stirred

Josh Reveals Hoynes Replacement Plot to Sam

As they walk toward the Roosevelt Room, Josh confirms Sam successfully got VP Hoynes to voluntarily remove his name from the crime bill without persuasion, easing one tension. Josh then divulges the secret meeting's true agenda—replacing Hoynes due to brutal electoral math—naming Admiral Fitzwallace, Leo McGarry, and jokingly Ulysses S. Grant as potentials. Sam, stunned and sensing his exclusion, probes the intrigue, exposing fractures in staff loyalty and strategy. This pivotal revelation builds dread, priming the high-stakes Roosevelt Room confrontation while underscoring ruthless political calculus over personal ties.

Plot Beats

The narrative micro-steps within this event

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Josh and Sam discuss the secret meeting about replacing VP Hoynes.

suspicion to revelation ['Roosevelt Room']

Sam reveals Hoynes agreed to remove his name from the bill without persuasion.

frustration to shock ['Roosevelt Room']

Who Was There

Characters present in this moment

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Unseen but positioned as viable savior

Admiral Fitzwallace is named by Josh as a serious VP replacement contender, his credentials floated amid the desperate calculus.

Goals in this moment
  • Bolster ticket in key regions
  • Leverage military stature politically
Active beliefs
  • National security trumps partisan loyalty
  • Proven leadership redeems any flaws
Character traits
Heroic Strategic
Follow Fitzwallace's journey

Implied as loyally conflicted

Leo McGarry is proposed by Josh as a potential VP replacement, his indispensability ironically tested in the plot.

Goals in this moment
  • Anchor administration stability
  • Prioritize reelection over personal exposure
Active beliefs
  • Duty demands personal sacrifice
  • Sobriety doesn't disqualify leadership
Character traits
Indispensable Resilient
Follow Leo McGarry's journey
Josh Lyman
primary

Casually triumphant shifting to frustrated defensiveness under scrutiny

Josh catches up to Sam mid-stride toward the Roosevelt Room, verifies Sam's success with Hoynes, then bluntly discloses the secret agenda of replacing the VP, naming potentials while deflecting Sam's accusations of exclusion with defensive assurances.

Goals in this moment
  • Brief Sam on the meeting's true stakes to align him before entry
  • Defuse Sam's suspicion of deliberate exclusion
Active beliefs
  • Electoral math demands ruthless VP replacement for victory
  • Sam's loyalty withstands this bombshell revelation
Character traits
Impulsive Defensive Sardonic
Follow Josh Lyman's journey

Historically neutral, wielded for levity

Ulysses S. Grant is jokingly named by Josh as a VP option, invoking historical tolerance for flawed victors to underscore the stakes.

Goals in this moment
  • N/A (historical figure)
Active beliefs
  • Victory excuses personal demons
  • Loyalty endures despite vices
Character traits
Flawed Genius Victorious
Follow Ulysses S. …'s journey

Unseen but implied as cooperative yet precarious

VP Hoynes is referenced as the target of replacement and the figure whose name Sam secured off the crime bill voluntarily, his political vulnerability invoked to justify the covert plot.

Goals in this moment
  • Maintain viability amid electoral threats
  • Navigate policy concessions without loss of face
Active beliefs
  • Self-preservation demands flexibility on bills like crime
  • Ticket loyalty binds him despite tensions
Character traits
Politically Vulnerable
Follow John Hoynes's journey

Confident from victory, escalating to stunned betrayal and urgent suspicion

Sam reports his unpressured success with Hoynes while walking, then demands clarity on the meeting, reacting with stunned probing about exclusion and specific replacement names, reiterating his achievement before entering the room.

Goals in this moment
  • Clarify his sidelining and grasp the replacement plot's scope
  • Reassert his unmanipulated success with Hoynes
Active beliefs
  • Staff unity requires transparency on major shifts
  • Hoynes' concession was genuine, not coerced
Character traits
Persistent Suspicious Idealistic
Follow Sam Seaborn's journey
Bruno
primary

Implied as ruthlessly analytical

Bruno is cited by Josh as the strategist who initiated the push to evaluate replacing Hoynes based on polling data.

Goals in this moment
  • Force consideration of VP swap for electoral gains
  • Impose discipline via brutal math
Active beliefs
  • Numbers dictate political survival over sentiment
  • Hoynes' weaknesses doom the ticket
Character traits
Data-Driven Aggressive
Follow Bruno's journey
Supporting 1

persistent and frustrated, then agreeable

Sitting at Josh's desk, reports office is clean, presents found wheat gluten proclamation, lobbies Josh for a proclamation honoring her teacher Molly Morello, eventually concedes he's right.

Goals in this moment
  • Secure Josh's approval for a Presidential proclamation for retiring teacher Molly Morello
Character traits
dutiful empathetic competent resilient inquisitive data-driven apprehensive under scrutiny
Follow Donnatella Moss's journey

Location Details

Places and their significance in this event

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Roosevelt Room (Mural Room — West Wing meeting room)

The Roosevelt Room serves as the imminent destination for Josh and Sam's tense corridor revelation, its threshold amplifying the buildup to a high-stakes confrontation over VP replacement; Sam crosses into it at the event's close, symbolizing entry into the maelstrom of fractured loyalties and electoral desperation.

Atmosphere Charged with impending crisis, shadows of night heightening whispered intrigue
Function Converging point for secret strategy summit
Symbolism Embodies the heart of White House power struggles and moral reckonings
Access Restricted to senior staff for covert deliberations
Nighttime hush in corridors Proximity to Oval Office intensifying gravity

Narrative Connections

How this event relates to others in the story

What led here 1
Character Continuity medium

"Donna's persistent lobbying for a proclamation for her retiring teacher and her later confrontation with Josh about the same request show her determination and the personal stakes involved."

Donna Bargains Proclamation from Frantic Josh
S3E17 · Stirred

Themes This Exemplifies

Thematic resonance and meaning

Key Dialogue

"JOSH: "Replacing Hoynes.""
"SAM: "What are you talking about?""
"JOSH: "Fitzwallace, Leo, and Ulysses S. Grant.""
"SAM: "Not for nothing but before we go in there, I want to be clear. I didn't have to convince him, or even suggest it. Right off the bat, he said 'Let's take my name off of it'.""